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Thank you for adding this, Robin.

The URL tab of the corresponding Amara page does not mention synchronization. If your Vimeo channel and your Amara account should be synchronized, please create a ticket that will go to Amara's tech staff: they'll be able to correct the issue.

Best,

Claude

Hi Sirius,

Thank you for having tried - successfully - the Webm plugin for IE10, and for the link to the AppleInsider article on codecs. Not that I really understood it, being codec-illiterate. What I did grab from it is that the present development of codecs is complex, and that this complexity may cause a browser compatibility issue: hence the addition of "+browser compatibility issue" to the title of this topic.

I guess that until browser developers get to a real agreement on that, when a video stops working in Amara the solution will be to reupload it in a generally supported format like MP4, and add the new URL to the Amara page and make it primary.  But this, of course, opens the copyright can of worms...

Thank you so much, Sirius. Have you installed the plugin for reading WebM videos with Internet Exporer? I was wondering if, once installed, it made it possible to view Amara players that stream WebM videos, like the Stallman video. On the other hand, I don't want to make you spend too much time on this compatibility issue.

Best,

Claude

 

Thank you, Sirius.

Then I think that for the time being, I'll describe  http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/ with the MP4 URL as primary, as the main page for subtitling "Eye of the Beholder", and we can leave the not-working http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ page with just the vimeo URL to developers, so they can explore why it's not working.

Out of curiosity:  we now that know that IE10 does not show OGG videos streamed in Amara, but what about WEBM videos streamed in Amara? For instance, can you view Richard Stallman, A Free Digital Society (© cc-by-nd) that streams http://download.tuxfamily.org/assolibnum/conferences/stallman/stallman-sciencespo-freesociety.webm (or the original webm  file itself) with IE10?

Because if you can't, then maybe free software advocacy groups could gently notify Microsoft folks that a browser that doesn't work with free video formats as OGG and WEBM is likely to make them lose even more market parts than they have lost over the last 8 years.

 

Hi Sirius,

Re the "Eye of the Beholder" Amara pages: I have now 

• removed the MP4 URL from http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/?tab=urls , leaving only the not-working vimeo URL there
• added this MP4 URL and made it primary in http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/?tab=urls, (leaving the OGG URL as secondary for the time being.

Can you tell me if the subtitles now work for you with IE10 in http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/?

If they do, then we could add something in the description and comments of both pages, indicating that http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/ is the working page from now on? If they don't, then I'll revert to the former situation you described. But it would be a bit of a pain in the neck to have to use one page for subtitling with IE10 and another page for subtitling with other browsers, even though the subtitle files could be transfered between both pages to keep both pages updated...

How interesting, Sirius: thanks. Now what we could try is leaving only the not-working vimeo video URL in the page that initially streamed it, in order to add the MP4 URL to the page that now streams the OGG video, and make the MP4 primary there. I'll try that later today. However, it would be great if developers could find a solution where whatever video formats can be used to create / streamed in an Amara page work with all browsers.

 

Hi Sirius

So, I reuploaded the "Eye of the Beholder" video in https://archive.org/details/TwilightzoneEyeofthebeholder, and that produced 2 URLs that normally can be used in Amara:

1. https://archive.org/download/TwilightzoneEyeofthebeholder/twilightzone_eyeofthebeholder.mp4, the MP4 file I uploaded
2. https://archive.org/download/TwilightzoneEyeofthebeholder/twilightzone_eyeofthebeholder.ogv, the Ogg Vorbis format that the Internet Archive software derived automatically
   

 Then I added the first URL to the http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/?tab=urls page and made in primary.

But the problem subsists: the player still appears as a black rectangle, without time line and without navigation commands.

So I used the second, Ogg Vorbis URL to create a new Amara video page, http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/, which works. And so I reuploaded your English and Japanese subtitles to it: if you modify them, they'll be attributed to you on the subtitle pages - could you do that please?

I suggest we leave the not working video page for the time being, so that developers can work on it. I was wondering if perhaps the unholy amount of dots in the name of the vimeo video might perhaps be a cause?