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Subtitles for Vimeo videos not showing + browser compatibility issue
Hi Claude,
Thank you very much for checking.
Yes. "The Fever" does play well now. I checked twice. I'm so glad.
Best,
Claude
Thank you for your concern.
All right. I'll be waiting.
For me too, the player in http://www.amara.org/ja/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/ still only appears as a black rectangle without the vimeo timeline and commands (see attached screenshot), even though the vimeo video per se plays correctly .
However, in http://www.amara.org/ja/videos/JPIpwLXt0y0X/info/twilight-zone-s01e17-the-fever/, the subtitles show OK for me - they only start at 1:09, though: did you wait until then?
Hi Claude
>Have you installed the plugin?
Well, I installed it (it took only seconds) and experimented. It works fine.
WebM vs H.264
I didn't know anything about this. Apple and MS will never intend to support WebM.
Best regards
Re the "Eye of the Beholder" Amara pages: I have now
- removed the MP4 URL from http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/?tab=urls , leaving only the not-working vimeo URL there
- added this MP4 URL and made it primary in http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/?tab=urls, (leaving the OGG URL as secondary for the time being.
Can you tell me if the subtitles now work for you with IE10 in http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/?
If they do, then we could add something in the description and comments of both pages, indicating that http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/ is the working page from now on? If they don't, then I'll revert to the former situation you described. But it would be a bit of a pain in the neck to have to use one page for subtitling with IE10 and another page for subtitling with other browsers, even though the subtitle files could be transfered between both pages to keep both pages updated...
Hi Claude,
>Can you tell me if the subtitles now work for you with IE10 in http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/?
Yes, I think the subtitles work. I say "I think" because the first time it returned "error". But after that, subtitles showed repeatedly four times.
Attached is the screen shot of "the first time".
Then I think that for the time being, I'll describe http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/ with the MP4 URL as primary, as the main page for subtitling "Eye of the Beholder", and we can leave the not-working http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ page with just the vimeo URL to developers, so they can explore why it's not working.
Out of curiosity: we now that know that IE10 does not show OGG videos streamed in Amara, but what about WEBM videos streamed in Amara? For instance, can you view Richard Stallman, A Free Digital Society (© cc-by-nd) that streams http://download.tuxfamily.org/assolibnum/conferences/stallman/stallman-sciencespo-freesociety.webm (or the original webm file itself) with IE10?
Because if you can't, then maybe free software advocacy groups could gently notify Microsoft folks that a browser that doesn't work with free video formats as OGG and WEBM is likely to make them lose even more market parts than they have lost over the last 8 years.
Amara Staff have now fixed this problem. Thank you for reporting it.
So, I reuploaded the "Eye of the Beholder" video in https://archive.org/details/TwilightzoneEyeofthebeholder, and that produced 2 URLs that normally can be used in Amara:
- https://archive.org/download/TwilightzoneEyeofthebeholder/twilightzone_eyeofthebeholder.mp4, the MP4 file I uploaded
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https://archive.org/download/TwilightzoneEyeofthebeholder/twilightzone_eyeofthebeholder.ogv, the Ogg Vorbis format that the Internet Archive software derived automatically
Then I added the first URL to the http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/?tab=urls page and made in primary.
But the problem subsists: the player still appears as a black rectangle, without time line and without navigation commands.
So I used the second, Ogg Vorbis URL to create a new Amara video page, http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/, which works. And so I reuploaded your English and Japanese subtitles to it: if you modify them, they'll be attributed to you on the subtitle pages - could you do that please?
I suggest we leave the not working video page for the time being, so that developers can work on it. I was wondering if perhaps the unholy amount of dots in the name of the vimeo video might perhaps be a cause?
Now I understand what you mean.
>Then I added the first URL to the http://www.amara.org/en/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/?tab=urls
page and made in primary.
>But the problem subsists:
My computer is windows7. When I watched the video on above URL with IE10, there's no problem.
But with Google Chrome: Yes, you are right. just black rectangle and no timeline.
>So I used the second, Ogg Vorbis URL to create a new Amara video page, http://www.amara.org/en/videos/sKEhJLsmKaR2/info/, which works.
Yes with Google Chrome, but no with IE10.
IE10 says "Sorry, your browser can't play HTML5/Ogg video. Get Firefox."
So if I have to choose between the first URL and the second URL, I'd like to choose the first.
Thanks for everything.
>Out of curiosity:
The first link (Richard Stallman...) appears like 1.ping. The second link(http://download...) like 2.ping.
Well, as for IE9, no subtitles on Amara works. Windows Vista doesn't support IE10. As a result, those who can see subtitles on Amara are limited to those who have windows 7 or windows 8, if not installed another browza. I once checked windows Vista with Google Chrome, and Chrome could show subtitles.
Amara staff are looking into the outstanding issue with "The Eye of the Beholder". Meanwhile, at their suggestion, I messaged "f w", the uploader of its video original, asking if s/he'd object if I reuploaded the video on archive.org, explaining that this would give us a 2nd address from which to stream the video into the Amara page.
So I'd say, let's wait a couple of days, to see whether Amara staff can solve the issue and/or if f w replies.
sirius shin
I noticed yesterday that subtitles for Vimeo videos didn't show up.I created subtitles for YouTube and Daily Motion, too, and they worked fine.
The Vimeo videos are:
http://www.amara.org/ja/videos/joaHwmHQKtMQ/info/thetwilightzones02e06theeyeofthebeholderac3dvdripxvid/
http://www.amara.org/ja/videos/vPPZICNHQFfv/info/twilight-zone-s01e16-the-hitch-hiker/
http://www.amara.org/ja/videos/CbfRgqRWIvRC/info/twilight-zone-episode-124-a-kind-of-a-stopwatch/